Who are you?

Craig: All right, Max. You are definitely unique. And I mean that in a good way. And one thing that stands out is your clean, cleaner, clean-ish image. Clean-ish maybe it’s not actually clean. So you manage to be charming, just quite simply charming without promoting a bad-boy persona. [00:02:00] And right away, my first question is, is that a conscious decision? Or I’m guessing that’s just who you are?

Max: Yeah, I mean. I don’t know. I’m pretty boring outside of Parkour.

Craig: Boring is not what I would say, but okay.

Max: I’m … Yeah … I guess that’s my ideal way of spending time is like reading and going to bed at 11:00 at night. So I’m not much of a …

Craig: I go to bed before 11:00, Max. So, okay. But when you see people doing … And then there [00:02:30] was a comment … I don’t know if I saw it in your book or in a video. There was a comment that you made about, “Wow. The cinematography on some particular video works really well for the bad boy image that that person was putting forward.”

Max: Mm-hmm (affirmative).

Craig: And then of course we can go into that side story of, do people do that bad boy image intentionally or unintentionally or whatever. But I’m guessing that you see that bad boy image in a lot of the Parkour videos?

Max: Yeah, I mean, I think most sports you see people kind of have … Everybody kind of has a character that they play out, whether [00:03:00] it’s conscious or subconscious. You know, we’re just all our own people and I think in Parkour you have a couple people that … You know, they’re running around, doing awesome stuff, maybe being a little bit more adamant about trespassing and kind of making that into a part of their videos.

Craig: Yeah, roof culture is a perfect example of that.

Max: Yeah, yeah. And like the Storror guys are really good friends of mine. Awesome people. Like, I’ve had them all in my house for like a week when they were visiting in the US. And they are … They’re just really fun dudes [00:03:30] that are crazy and adventuring all the time.

Craig: Yeah, it’s not an act.

Max: It’s like … Yeah, it’s just who they are.

Craig: And that’s why it works. If you had to fake it, it wouldn’t function.

Max: Yeah, and I think for me, just who I am is like … I don’t know. I’m just kind of me.

Craig: A product of your mom and dad.

Max: Yeah, yeah.

Craig: That’s … So am I.

Max: Yeah, anybody that stayed at my house and met my family is like, “Oh, yeah. You make perfect sense as a human being now.” Or seen my interests and what I read.

Craig: Yeah, I have to say. I’ve now seen your record collection and CD’s [00:04:00] and I’m like, “Oh, never mind. Skip the interview. Where’s the record player?” [crosstalk 00:04:04] How did you get into music like that? Did that come from your family or was it something you picked up young or … ?

Max: Yeah, basically my entire family are musicians. So my dad’s a trumpet player and teacher, my mom is a vocalist and teacher, my sister does acting and off-Broadway musicals.

Craig: And voice. So she does voice …

Max: Yeah, she’s voice also.

Craig: Well, that explains that.

Max: My grandfather … My other grandmother. Like, all, were [00:04:30] musicians. My grandfather played french horn on a bunch of original Broadway recordings like Man of La Mancha in the ’60’s, he was out here playing on Broadway.

Craig: That’s amazing. [crosstalk 00:04:40] Cannot see where we are. We are in Long Island.

Who are you?

I am someone who wants everyone to realize that parkour is not something only the strong/athletic people can do but it is something that everyone did before as a kid. I want them to realize that parkour is natural, it is used by our ancestors to move. I am someone who encourages everyone to relearn how to move.

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Who are you?

I am a student, an artist, a teacher, and a traceuse. Each separate piece informs and affects all of the other pieces, and each of these things has become an important part of who I am, as well as who I am becoming.